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Anatomy of a Minnesota Republican "Message Test"

Category: Minnesota Politics
Posted: Monday, 15 September 2008 11:56

by Dave Mindeman

I had a call from Provo, Utah last night and I am going to tell you about that call and some subsequent conversations I had regarding it.

We have a contested House race in this Minnesota Legislative House district -- 37A, Apple Valley and Burnsville. Democrat Shelley Madore currently holds that seat, but she won in 2006 by a very narrow margin (about 400 votes). Thus it would be assumed she is targeted by the GOP House caucus. Her opponent is a young (20 something), GOP House staffer running for the first time, named Tara Mack.

This call was about that race. The first question was: "Could I speak to the oldest female voter in the household?" That would be my wife -- she got on the phone and I listened in.

First there were some demographic questions and some short opinions on President and Senate candidates...but that was obviously not the focus of the call because the rest of it was all about House District 37A.

This call came from Western Watts in Provo, Utah. They provide the manpower to make these calls, but the script is furnished by The Tarrance Group out of Arlington, Virginia. The Tarrance Group has roughly 80 political clients -- all of them Republican and one of them is the Republican Party of Minnesota.

The questions began this way:

"We would like you to tell us if the following statements about a candidate would make you more likely or less likely to vote for that candidate."

A couple of statements followed about Tara Mack:

1) Tara Mack works for the legislature and will be ready to serve the district on day one.

2) Tara Mack is a fiscal conservative and will work hard to lower taxes and decrease spending.


Then they abruptly shifted to larger series of statements about Shelley Madore:

(1) Shelley Madore voted to give Minneapolis schools $4500 per pupil in additional funding. That's 53% higher funding than schools in this district.

(2) Shelley Madore voted for a bill that allows convicted sex offenders and those convicted of other serious crimes to work in child care centers or nursing homes.

(3) Shelley Madore voted to increase welfare spending by over $1 billion while not voting to control waste, fraud and abuse.

(4) While facing a billion dollar deficit in 2009(?), Shelley Madore voted for $400,000 for a Brass Band Sheet Music Museum in Southeast Minnesota.

(5) Shelley Madore voted to increase state income taxes by $780 million.

(6) Shelley Madore voted to not allow any new construction of nuclear power plants in the State of Minnesota that would reduce energy costs.

(7) Shelley Madore voted for $170 million in pork barrell spending rather than fixing roads.


Notice how they always include the name of the candidate in each statement. And after each of these statements the "survey worker" would ask, "Does that statement make you more likely or less likely to vote for that candidate?"

Well, I guess to the average uninformed voter the answer would get a little obvious. All the statements have a factual premise buried in them, but they only state them in the worst possible negative way.

My wife and I kept this person on the phone. She actually was a very pleasant individual and tried to answer our questions -- truthfully I think. She was just reading a script -- she pronounced Shelley's name as "Shelley Matadore". She indicated that she thought this type of survey was being done in 4 Minnesota House Districts. When she couldn't answer the questions anymore she said, "Would you like to talk to my supervisor?". We said yes and were given to Ryan Retzlaff. He appeared to be cooperative, but said client information was confidential. We asked if he would send us the script of the survey via e-mail. Strangely enough, he said he would, however that did not happen (I would have been shocked if it came). We asked who was his immediate superior and he gave us the phone number of a Robert Macabee who also works for Western Watts.

I called that number and was connected directly to Mr. Macabee. He answered questions but was clear that he could not divulge anything about his clients. The Tarrance group is one of a number of data collectors that Western Watts works for.

I asked Mr. Macabee to define push polling. He told me that he considers push polling a large series of calls about one issue regarding a specific candidate ...usually negative...that are meant to be persuasive in nature. I asked him if they are illegal and he said that they are in some states. I described the call we received and asked him if that was a push poll. He said, "absolutely not. What we do here is called Message Testing". The surveyors ask a sampling of voters in an area to give their opinion on statements to test how a message is responded to. Our company has nothing to do with script that is given to us. We merely make the calls and disseminate the script. The number of calls would be much smaller than those of a push poll. And he reiterated, "We do not do push polls."

I think it is a little disingenuous to call that message testing. Those statements are clearly meant to form a negative opinion in the mind of the receiving party. If the "message" test response was anything other than negative, the the message obviously failed.

The negative politics that permeates the Republican party, up and down the entire ticket, is the reason the voters of this country have such a low opinion of everybody.

Yet, it will continue to thrive because it works in regards to election campaigns. A negative thought always gets remembered long after a positive one is spoken. John McCain learned this in 2000 and he has not forgotten. A desperate Minnesota Republican party has also decided to take the lowest of low roads.


comments (9) permalink
SomeGuyKevinKnows
Wednesday, 17 September 2008 15:50
Hi Dave-

I can confirm that Judy Lindsay's supporters in 37B have been getting push poll calls. I have asked one to contact you & asked him to be polite. I know you'll do the same.

Like the calls against Madore, the phrases recounted were distortions of her record and opinions of her character and personality that amounted to outright smears.

Perhaps my opinion should follow depending on whose ox is being gored....Madore= message testing, Lindsay= smears, but that's complete garbage. It is a sleazy tactic regardless of who benefits.

I have no issue with critical political discourse where the source of the message is known, and the messenger is willing to defend his/her point. You have plenty of that here, & Kevin does on his site. However, these non-transparent attacks are thoroughly disagreeable.

As you might expect, I think very well of Tara Mack, and am very confident in her abilities as a candidate and a potential legislator. She doesn't need the benefit of this sort of tripe. I'd trust you feel the same about Phil Sterner.

Frankly, I have no idea who would be funding this sort of thing- it is certainly beyond the bounds of a local candidate. It is curious that the calls seem to be coming, at least in part, from the same state and seem to have a very similar pattern. Bottom in is, I don't like it.

I think that left-wing moonbats and right-wing nutjobs should stand together and say, "Enough!" :)

 
Wednesday, 17 September 2008 02:42
What number were these supposed 37A calls coming from? From what I've heard these 37B calls were coming from Utah as well.
 
Wednesday, 17 September 2008 02:41
If you're really truly interested...contact Judy Lindsay. Her supporters have provided her a plethora of examples.


 
Tuesday, 16 September 2008 09:27
Actually, my girlfriend in 37B got one of these calls last week, and it was definitely a Republican push poll. The one that made her laugh was the statement-question "Phil Sterner voted for the use of eminent domain" since he, you know, didn't. I guess outright lying is par for the course for all Republicans this year. When you can't win on issues...
 
Tuesday, 16 September 2008 06:48
As I said before.... I would like to talk to a Republican who has received one of those calls. If it is happening in 37B then have one of them contact me. I'd appreciae it.
 
Tuesday, 16 September 2008 05:51
Dave,

You don't have to go very far to see the DFL doing the EXACT same thing to a GOP candidate. It's happening in 37B.

Get off your high horse, Mr Pot

Sincerely,

Mr Kettle.
 
Monday, 15 September 2008 20:25
Mr. C,

Frankly, I'd like to talk to a Republican who has received this type of call about a GOP candidate. If that happened to someone you know, please have them contact me so that I can compare the calls. You can click on my name via this comment and you will get my e-mail. I'd appreciate it.
 
Monday, 15 September 2008 20:22
You're being a partisan hack here. EVERYBODY knows that both parties do this kind of calling in targeted districts. We're getting them in my House District right now - trying to unseat the incumbent Repbublican.

These calls might be a bad thing. That's a fine opinion. But it's more than a bit disingenuous to imply that the the GOP is the only party that does it. I know you know otherwise.
 
Monday, 15 September 2008 14:32
Utter arrogance. Privatizing politics in America, eh? No accountability, eh? True justice will come when Pelosi goes down with Sheehan taking her seat at the trough, in San Francisco. I really liked the 12 plus point jump of McCain this weekend in Minnesota. Voters need to spend more time with the corporate media, take it all in.

Anyway, great article. Thanks for sharing it.
 
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